tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-199633972689777295.post4175461840000172967..comments2024-03-25T10:57:21.969-07:00Comments on BARE RECORD OF TRUTH: 201: REGIONAL CONFERENCE for 116 STAKES in Salt LakeBARE RECORD OF TRUTHhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04525289075352079487noreply@blogger.comBlogger27125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-199633972689777295.post-85102275511530859212016-01-22T17:51:53.773-08:002016-01-22T17:51:53.773-08:00Cherrie,
Reading this 19 months later, I still won...Cherrie,<br />Reading this 19 months later, I still wonder how anyone can believe these men are speaking for Christ. Re-read the "9 Diamonds" Elder Nelson spent this valuable time of 116 stakes of LDS people talking about. You could read the same ideas in the Childrens' Friend magazine. Where is there anything here worthy of someone who claims to be a "Prophet, Seer, and Revelator", a representative of the Living God? Where is there anything here noteworthy about the Doctrine of Christ, the very central core of the Gospel of Jesus Christ, the only way for man to be saved, in this drivel he propounded to thousands of eager listeners? This talk could have been written by any high school kid who has attended seminary. Where is the doctrine befitting a true Apostle of the Lord Jesus Christ these days? Instead, this soon to be next president of the church fed those thousands of starving-for-the-truth listeners...warmed over mush.<br />Apostates? Is seeking for the truth and striving and longing to come unto Christ apostasy? Is speaking the truth about the shriveling and decline of the church apostasy?<br />Is following after the doctrines of men mingled with scripture so noble? Is allowing men in fancy suits to come between you and your Lord so righteous?<br />Oh sister, repent while you still can. Open your eyes and see the glaring truth before you!<br />Come unto Christ and stop striving and yearning to come unto church!<br />James Russell UhlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-199633972689777295.post-26751540893238740272014-06-26T16:18:42.244-07:002014-06-26T16:18:42.244-07:00Many of you are sounding like apostates? "We ...Many of you are sounding like apostates? "We believe all that God has revealed, all that he does now reveal, and we believe he will yet reveal..." The Word of Wisdom came as a warning, but is now a commandment. And how about "When a prophet speaks by the power of the Holy Ghost it is scripture?" I heard this talk given in Florida. Elder Nelson spoke by the power of the Spirit and I and others received by that same power and the blog notes are very good and actually maybe that word, if you consider it, is correct. Elder Nelson doesn't just throw out words, maybe the word 'capitulation' is correct. Maybe we will have to surrender or give up some family members because they just don't want what Christ has to offer?Cherriehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13177298949347809082noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-199633972689777295.post-71057684468575282252013-09-24T04:30:41.582-07:002013-09-24T04:30:41.582-07:00There is a great famine in the land, a famine of h...There is a great famine in the land, a famine of hearing the word of the Lord preached in its fullness. These watered down talks are no longer providing sustenance. The people are starving for the plain word of God spoken in power. No wonder Elder Snuffer was kicked out, he was attempting to feed the Lord's sheep instead of feeding himself off their fat and clothing himself from their wool (Ezekiel 34). The day has come when the Lord Himself must gather His sheep and feed them because His shepherds are failing and His flock is scattered.<br />JR Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-199633972689777295.post-54504641076845143862013-09-23T13:53:35.191-07:002013-09-23T13:53:35.191-07:00Email Comment from a reader:
"It would have ... Email Comment from a reader:<br /><br />"It would have made a much shorter talk if Elder Nelson had expressed the doctrine of Christ as the Lord did in section 10 of the D&C<br /><br />67 Behold, this is my doctrine—whosoever repenteth and cometh unto me, the same is my church.<br />68 Whosoever declareth more or less than this, the same is not of me, but is against me; therefore he is not of my church.<br /><br />Short and sweet.<br /><br />M.<br />BARE RECORD OF TRUTHhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04525289075352079487noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-199633972689777295.post-49432948570609890952013-09-23T13:52:15.559-07:002013-09-23T13:52:15.559-07:00Here is the link to the FHE lesson:
http://ldsliv...Here is the link to the FHE lesson:<br /><br />http://ldsliving.com/story/73543-fhe-lesson-the-not-even-once-club<br /><br />David<br /><br /><br />BARE RECORD OF TRUTHhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04525289075352079487noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-199633972689777295.post-57665012140958862013-09-22T18:26:05.164-07:002013-09-22T18:26:05.164-07:00I don't live in Utah, but perhaps Deseret Book...I don't live in Utah, but perhaps Deseret Book has signage in the stores promoting it for FHE. I have seen blogs where young mothers are saying that they are forming clubs for their children.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-199633972689777295.post-55503902418231649842013-09-22T16:22:24.223-07:002013-09-22T16:22:24.223-07:00I know the book. But I am curious about the "...I know the book. But I am curious about the "promoted to be used in FHE" part.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-199633972689777295.post-91023785220525493412013-09-22T13:25:03.238-07:002013-09-22T13:25:03.238-07:00I can't even stand to listen to these false pr...I can't even stand to listen to these false prophets anymore and the falsehoods they promote. Why give them anymore influence over us or our families? The longer we attend their Church the harder it will be to one day convert our children to the real truth and away from all the falsehoods they learned at Church, many will not even listen when you try.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-199633972689777295.post-53755513721287556422013-09-21T20:29:05.079-07:002013-09-21T20:29:05.079-07:00It's called The Not Even Once Club. Check out...It's called The Not Even Once Club. Check out the reviews on Amazon.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-199633972689777295.post-46354361705623638902013-09-21T11:20:29.850-07:002013-09-21T11:20:29.850-07:00116 pages of lost manuscript from the Book of Morm...116 pages of lost manuscript from the Book of MormonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-199633972689777295.post-34196361126948253882013-09-20T22:13:08.287-07:002013-09-20T22:13:08.287-07:00David, can you explain more about the number 116?
...David, can you explain more about the number 116?<br /><br />I did think his 9 points were interesting. 9 seems to symbolize incompleteness (or not quite finished) or death.<br /><br />CarlieAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-199633972689777295.post-41119712582620465662013-09-19T21:05:50.511-07:002013-09-19T21:05:50.511-07:00Wonder if this apostle ever read in the D&C wh...Wonder if this apostle ever read in the D&C where the Lord told the church that it should conduct all business by common consent? How many church members voted to sustain the building of City Creek Mall? How many voted to bring homosexuality into church Boy Scout troops?<br />Wonder if he ever read in the parables of the Savior that the Lord claimed His talents AND He also claimed all the earnings from the invested talents as His own? <br />Wonder if he has ever read The Doctrine of Christ as explained by Nephi in 2 Nephi 31-32? I find it hard to tell based on the weak doctrine he chose to feed the 116 stakes of gathered sheep.<br />JR Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-199633972689777295.post-21737498570722044282013-09-19T16:51:35.586-07:002013-09-19T16:51:35.586-07:00"His wife just recently published a book that..."His wife just recently published a book that has been gaining much attention and promoted to be used in Family Home Evenings."<br /><br />Please, give more info.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-199633972689777295.post-49189393041657096252013-09-18T15:07:44.022-07:002013-09-18T15:07:44.022-07:00I was at this meeting with my stake as well. I ha...I was at this meeting with my stake as well. I had a couple of small kids to deal with so I wasn't able to pay as close attention as I could have as he listed out the 9 facets. After the meeting I had to ask in another forum for someone to list the facets again for me, because I honestly didn't remember even one of the facets that dealt with Christ. Obviously, facet #3 is Atonement, but I still wonder how much time he actually spent on it. The other discussion of the other facets were very "Christ-light," with only passing mention.<br /><br />I too had my thoughts draw to the words of the master and His personal definition of his doctrine. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-199633972689777295.post-75747780833818808342013-09-18T12:08:31.464-07:002013-09-18T12:08:31.464-07:00 30 Behold, this is not my doctrine, to stir up th... 30 Behold, this is not my doctrine, to stir up the hearts of men with anger, one against another; but this is my doctrine, that such things ashould be done away.<br /><br /> 31 Behold, verily, verily, I say unto you, I will declare unto you my adoctrine.<br /><br /> 32 And this is my adoctrine, and it is the doctrine which the Father hath given unto me; and I bear brecord of the Father, and the Father beareth record of me, and the cHoly Ghost beareth record of the Father and me; and I bear record that the Father commandeth all men, everywhere, to repent and believe in me.<br /><br /> 33 And whoso believeth in me, and is abaptized, the same shall be bsaved; and they are they who shall cinherit the kingdom of God.<br /><br /> 34 And whoso believeth not in me, and is not abaptized, shall be damned.<br /><br /> 35 Verily, verily, I say unto you, that this is my doctrine, and I bear record of it from the Father; and whoso abelieveth in me believeth in the Father also; and unto him will the Father bear record of me, for he will visit him bwith fire and with the cHoly Ghost.<br /><br /> 36 And thus will the Father bear record of me, and the aHoly Ghost will bear record unto him of the Father and me; for the Father, and I, and the Holy Ghost are bone.<br /><br /> 37 And again I say unto you, ye must repent, and abecome as a blittle child, and be baptized in my name, or ye can in nowise receive these things.<br /><br /> 38 And again I say unto you, ye must repent, and be baptized in my name, and become as a little achild, or ye can in nowise inherit the kingdom of God.<br /><br /> 39 Verily, verily, I say unto you, that this is my adoctrine, and whoso bbuildeth upon this buildeth upon my rock, and the cgates of hell shall not prevail against them.<br /><br /> 40 And whoso shall adeclare more or less than this, and establish it for my doctrine, the same cometh of evil, and is not built upon my rock; but he buildeth upon a bsandy foundation, and the gates of hell stand open to receive such when the floods come and the winds beat upon them.Vincenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-199633972689777295.post-51112383126685218842013-09-18T08:58:56.822-07:002013-09-18T08:58:56.822-07:00I would be very appreciative if you or anyone woul...I would be very appreciative if you or anyone would help edit for errors. I apologize for the lack of editing. I realize all of my posts are in great need of proof reading. <br />DavidBARE RECORD OF TRUTHhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04525289075352079487noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-199633972689777295.post-51802786560745607212013-09-18T08:35:29.031-07:002013-09-18T08:35:29.031-07:00So let me get this straight, when the scriptures u...So let me get this straight, when the scriptures use the word "Doctrine," it's meaning is plain, simple, and true. When the scriptures use the word "doctrines," there is a negative connotation. <br /><br />So pay no attention to the scriptures and let me tell you of my 9 doctrines? WTH? He would have been better off just diving into his Doctrine of the Diamond than telling you he was about to completely ignore scripture. <br /><br />Bretthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08491079244456274672noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-199633972689777295.post-84392679604899129432013-09-18T08:16:29.963-07:002013-09-18T08:16:29.963-07:00I guess the baptism of fire and of the Holy Ghost ...I guess the baptism of fire and of the Holy Ghost isn't as important as it used to be...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-199633972689777295.post-34613793386426213422013-09-18T07:24:49.597-07:002013-09-18T07:24:49.597-07:00It's obvious that was a scribal error- this po...It's obvious that was a scribal error- this post is full of them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-199633972689777295.post-88871089693203075722013-09-18T06:43:39.628-07:002013-09-18T06:43:39.628-07:00hmmm, interesting.
I believe the Word of Wisdom w...hmmm, interesting.<br /><br />I believe the Word of Wisdom was never meant to be a commandment--<br /><br />2 To be sent greeting; not by commandment or constraint, but by revelation and the aword of wisdom, showing forth the order and bwill of God in the temporal salvation of all saints in the last days—<br /><br /><br />"not by commandment or constraint"--<br /><br /><br />I would be curious to know where the revelation is that made it a commandment after this initial statement--<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-199633972689777295.post-76554833732283500602013-09-18T02:22:12.920-07:002013-09-18T02:22:12.920-07:00"I apologize if you feel that I have given yo..."I apologize if you feel that I have given you a heavy load of doctrine this morning." Huh?<br /><br />If that's "heavy" I fear what light might be.Toninoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-199633972689777295.post-70487105013377304212013-09-17T22:06:17.707-07:002013-09-17T22:06:17.707-07:00I thought His doctrine was much simpler than that....I thought His doctrine was much simpler than that.... and anyone who adds to it is in trouble. Repent and come unto Him. That's it.Elizabethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14202912310158630136noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-199633972689777295.post-73197522523707479302013-09-17T21:47:36.388-07:002013-09-17T21:47:36.388-07:00P.S.) My understanding is that the Doctrine of Chr...P.S.) My understanding is that the Doctrine of Christ is this: "Come unto me, and be saved." And from that hang all other doctrines and appendages, just like all of the law and the prophets hang upon the first and second great commandments . . . Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-199633972689777295.post-64374626637078462802013-09-17T21:45:05.412-07:002013-09-17T21:45:05.412-07:00I'm having a hard time getting excited about t...I'm having a hard time getting excited about those doctrines. He only sort of mentions the Salvation offered by Jesus Christ in Doctrine #3, "The Atonement". And even then, he glosses over the most amazing and profound thing to ever happen.<br /><br />These doctrines are important things to understand, yes. But they can be taught once--in a single talk--a few times a year, as necessary. I've looked over the new youth curriculum carefully, and it's structured for six-year-olds. :o(Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-199633972689777295.post-42477791720866745922013-09-17T16:18:26.388-07:002013-09-17T16:18:26.388-07:00I'm glad the Ten Commandments are still in &qu...I'm glad the Ten Commandments are still in "force." (And who would be the ones to enFORCE them? The STM Committee maybe?) It must mean that they were never part of the Law of Moses, because surely he knows that it was fulfilled in Christ and done away.Inspirehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07915227658956979023noreply@blogger.com