I did not purchase a ticket.. but was given one by a hostess. Here are a few pictures from the evening. A temple recommend would not get you in to the event, but it could have been taken away if you partook of the things that were offered.
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The below picture is at the entrance to the City Creek Center.
The sign to the left in small print says:
TONIGHT ONLY!
6:30 - 9:30 p.m.
CLUB CITY CREEK
ENJOY BEER, WINE, SOFT DRINKS,
and hors d'oeuvres, desserts, and COFFEE.
Level one, Nordstrom block, south of the fountains.
The above picture is of a lady handing me a drink. Don't worry though, it is Apple Beer. I think this substitute drink was offered to those who wanted to look like the rest but could still answer the temple recommend questions with the correct answer.
Sidenote: I wonder who Isaiah was talking about in Isaiah 28. .
"The crown of pride, the drunkards of Ephraim, shall be trodden under feet."
"But they also have erred through wine, and through strong drink are out of the way; the priest and the prophet have erred through strong drink, they are swallowed up of wine, they are out of the way through strong drink; they err in vision, they stumble in judgment."
We don't talk much about these verses in Gospel Doctrine class. We have the promise that we can't be led astray by our leaders. They could never err in vision, nor would they stumble in judgement.. Obviously Isaiah must be referring to a different religion who have priests and a prophet....and not us.
My, my, my. Why do I feel like I would lose the Spirit if I accepted the Church's invitation to partake in it's lure of fine apparel & richly adorned new sanctuary?
ReplyDeleteWow...no words...
ReplyDeleteDare I ask... to whom did the "charitable donation" go?
ReplyDeleteSo, did you take the apple beer, or did you ask for a glass of milk instead so that everybody there would KNOW you were a faithful Mormon, and not a godless heathen?
ReplyDeleteI think you need to get the full story before you post this kind of crap-ola. First, the mall was 1.5 billion, instead of 5 and you said the LDS paid for it. What a moron.
ReplyDeleteFirst, I fail to see (in this post) a monetary figure.
DeleteSecond, what is a church doing embracing mammon when it should be in the business of bringing souls to Christ? When Jesus walked the earth, all the signs point to Him being poor - and he hung out with the poor much more than with the wealthy.
Third: you got me curious because I had heard much about the cost ranging from 1.5 to 5 billion.
This is what I came up with in my research:
This shopping, office and residential center encompass nearly 20 acres (8.1 ha) of downtown Salt Lake City.[1] The City Creek Center is part of an estimated $5 billion[2] sustainable design project to revitalize downtown Salt Lake City.[3] The City Creek Center project itself has been estimated to cost around $1.5 billion.[4]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/City_Creek_Center
City Creek Center, a $2 billion development housing a high-end shopping mall, opened in Salt Lake City just a few short weeks ago
http://www.examiner.com/article/aveda-experience-center-to-open-at-city-creek
Elder Oaks, who practiced and taught law in Chicago and later served as a justice of the Utah Supreme Court, said he was thrilled to learn Kirton McConkie would occupy the lone office building constructed as part of City Creek Center, the $1.5 billion mixed-use development of the LDS Church and partner Taubman Centers Inc.
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865553960/Elder-Dallin-H-Oaks-dedicates-new-home-of-Utahs-largest-law-firm.html
multi-billion-dollar investment by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints for City Creek Center in Salt Lake City.
http://www.thespectrum.com/article/20120407/NEWS01/204070329/Candidates-debate-governor-s-policies?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|Frontpage
Yes, the LDS Church’s $2 billion City Creek Center is open.
http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/53765117-78/creek-downtown-salt-lake.html.csp
On Thursday morning, City Creek Center, the first indoor mall built in nearly three years, opened its doors to the public. Its owner is the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, which hopes that the $1.5 billion temple of consumption will redeem Salt Lake City's blighted downtown, where the Church is also headquartered.
The 700,000-square-foot mall certainly gives off a Biblical air. According to its website, City Creek has two 18-foot waterfalls, fountains that shoot water and bursts of flame while playing synchronized music . . . .
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/22/city-creek-mormon-mall_n_1372695.html
roughly $1 billion
http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2012-03-16/what-slowdown-the-mormons-are-building-a-mega-mall
The above site also mentions the church owning
hunting grounds
radio stations
newspapers
insurance companies
$1 billion for profit cattle and citrus ranch
The Mormon Church committed its members monies to redeveloping Salt Lake City with a downtown mall that had an original budget of 300 million. In fact, a similar Mall was built for around that amount just South of Salt Lake City. The City Creek Mall now is expected to cost anywhere from 4-8 billion dollars. Its final appraised value will be closer to the 300 million dollar mark.
http://www.moneyteachers.org/citycreekcenter.html
Interesting that the above source states that, in spite of billions being spent, the appraised value will be only in the millions.
$5-8 billion dollar Mormon Luxury Mall that was originally budgeted at $300- 500 million before the project was down-scaled.
http://pauldrockton.com/Meeple.html
First, I'm not sure Paul Drockton is a credible source. I saw nowhere where he got his figures, and he conflicts with all else I have found (moneyteachers is also Paul Drockton). I did see some evidence that the mall cost $3 billion to $5 billion a month or so ago, but I am unable to find those sources now. It could be that they were lumping the whole city creek project together, though.
Also, calling someone a moron, and making a charge without backing up your charge does not add to intelligent, informed conversation. It is very possible for people to disagree without resorting to name-calling and other childish behaviors.
DeleteOkay, I made a post before the one above in reply to crap-ola Anonymous. Blogger, is it stuck in your spam folder? It had many links in it (to show my sources), and blogspot could have earmarked it as spam. If you will retrieve it and post it, I would be very appreciative.
Deletewhether or not the Lord approves of this mall (I only just found out about it; I don't live near the intermountain west), the selling of alcoholic beverages there is disturbing.
ReplyDeleteI find it interesting that church employees would feel just fine adding sleeves to the angel's robes in a lovely, innocent Carl Bloch painting, while the advertising for City Creek is often sleeveless and low-cut. {Shakes head}
ReplyDeleteBarerecord: I have a book coming out and wish to use the picture of the woman serving you a "beer". Would that be possible?
ReplyDeleteBefore you use the photo, it would be important to know in what context you will be using it .. It would be important that you point out that it is actually non-alcoholic Apple "beer".
DeleteIs there a way to contact you so we can discuss offline?
Sure. The context is the same as yours here. I embedded my email addy in the URL for my name... ;)
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