Two recent movies depict what happens when a loss of communication happens. I found it ironic that both movies were released around the same time. The movie, All is Lost, involves a man, in the middle of the ocean.. stranded...unable to transmit via his radio the need for help. The other movie is about a woman astronaut, who is adrift in space after a tragic Space Shuttle mission. Both movies contain a lot of symbolism. Both were in a "vehicle" that they were expecting to "remain intact" and transport them safely back home. Instead their vehicle became damaged resulting in a loss of communication to the only ones who can save them.
"The foundation of Zion consists largely in reconnecting the children as a consequence of the promises that were made to the fathers, back again to the fathers. This is so there might be a welding link that connects the children who are on the earth with the fathers who are in the heavens. Not a connection to the dead who are in the Spirit world. They who are dead are in desperate need of your ministration to save them. For in connecting yourself to them is to connect yourself essentially to the damned, the dead, the disembodied. The fathers who are in heaven are the ones to whom you need to form the link. The whole purpose behind these promises and prophecy delivered to Joseph by Moroni was to fix this problem. Because if it were not so, the whole world would be utterly wasted, utterly wasted at His (and “their”) coming." Lecture on "Be of Good Cheer, Be of Good Courage."
We think that by expanding worldwide, building more and more temples, buildings, apartments, even malls, that we are hastening the work of the Lord and establishing Zion. But frankly I don't think we know what Zion is. The problem exists because no one has, and the scriptures are very careful to not include, a model for Zion. Is the model for Zion have a centralized control and command hierarchy? What happens when that command center becomes corrupt? The only way it can be fixed is requires knowledge about things that world doesn’t have. Only the Lord Himself can bring again. I don’t think we have the first inkling yet of how Zion is going to come about, or what it will require of us who are so hungry for it. Quite possible we might have the wrong picture in our head.
What I do know is that individuals need to connect to Christ. Him Alone. We do not go through any man to communicate with Him. He employeth no servant there. (2 Nephi 9:41) Once individuals have connected with the Lord, they become one in heart and mind. And in that desire towards Christ.. they hopefully move forward, until Christ comes among them.
Christ speaks of Himself as the “true vine” in John 15:1-6 to which we must connect if we are going to bear fruit.. None of us can bear fruit unless we are connected to the true vine. The vine is a genealogical term, it is a family of God term, it is a son of God term.
"Joseph received, in this first interview with the angel Moroni, an announcement about the first indications of the restoration of God's intent, to restore a holy family. God is telling us what He wants. He, God, wants to have upon the earth again His family. This is your dispensation, this is your time. You came down here with the intent of living and finding the things that will bring you back. This is your opportunity. Don't let some other group claim that it doesn't belong to you. These Scriptures are only going to be fulfilled when enough people awake and arise to realize that it is devolving upon you the obligation to find, to heed, to seek, to search, to pray, to obey and to form what is necessary in order to fulfill the promises and the covenants that were made to the fathers."
Lecture on "Be of Good Cheer, Be of Good Courage."
The only way we truly connect with others is through communication. A true Connection can not happen without communication between both parties, speaking with each other face to face.. without any digital device.
“We speak to each other in physical, analog ways. Our vocal chords vibrate. This initiates waves in the air, which are also physical. Those waves hit the eardrums of others, causing them to vibrate, which in turn creates tiny electrical signals that transport those vibrating patterns to the listener’s brains. In turn, the signals initiate neurons to zip around our brains, distilling the concept that the speaker wanted to convey. The key concept is that these are physical, mechanical phenomena. We don’t hear with our ears, we hear with our brains. Our wonderful ears are converter, they transform mechanical into electronic signals.
So far as we know, these physical, mechanical waves that convey speech don’t work in space, where there is no atmosphere. So if two astronauts took off their helmets on the moon and tried to talk to each other, it wouldn’t work, because there is no air in which vibrations can be converted into waves. So they need to talk electronically, not mechanically.
This is a long way of saying that you should not expect God to speak to you by these physical waves that your ears collect. Rather, He dispatches the Holy Ghost, which is the Spirit of God to you, and His spirit can communicate to your spirit inside of you directly to your brain or your feelings- without going through mechanical-electrical conversions in your ears. A lot of people get confused because they try to hear God’s voice with their ears, and they don’t hear anything. Instead you need to listen inside your self. Sometimes you detect His voice as ideas, words, or sentences that just emerge inside your head as thoughts. More often you detect His message as a peaceful, warm feeling inside your heart. It is as if the Spirit of God went inside of you and gave your spirit a warm hug to say that “This is right”. The Power of Every day Missionaries by Clayton Christensen pg 96-97
I believe that on one level God speaks to us through the Holy Ghost, but I also believe He can and will speak to us face to face. It is that connection, that personal connection to the Living Vine, that we will need to have in order to survive the coming days.
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ReplyDeletethanks... "corrected" to the incorrect way of spelling it. :)
DeleteI find it so fascinating that in a world so corrupt, and Hollywood being the center of Babylon, there are films being made with so much truth. The Lorax, the Guardians, and the Lego movie all have deep symbolism. My favorite line from the Lego movie is, "All you have to do is believe and then you'll see everything."
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Hi, can you comment on the reconnecting of children to fathers? Do you mean this verse does not refer to the geneolgy type link that we typically understand? If not, I am unsure what youmean by "fathers" in heaven.thanks
ReplyDelete(I'm not the purveyor of this blog) was going to post a comment, but thought I'm not sure where you are in your "testimony" ... the answers you seek are going to come well off the beaten path! and require much digesting in the spirit, unless you are simply seeking to download the latest "Gospel Principles" pdf and want to look under "Temple Work" "Baptisms for the Dead" "Paying Tithing" and the whole Elijah thing :)
DeleteI will say that in ONE context, there is only ONE "child" that counts, and ONE "Father" ... and it is absolutely essential that they connect, or restore that experience! In another context, still one "child" that counts, and many "Fathers," and absolutely essential that they connect ... lastly, again, one child that really counts and a family that is and will be organized :) Hmm ... now that is juicy, or is it tasty, doctrine that gets a man up and out of bed in the morning, lol, dang good stuff!! Family ... not what you think ...
Good question. I appreciate the comments which have answered and responded. Here is just a quick response. Joseph Smith emphasized in a sermon given on the Nauvoo temple grounds on March 10, 1844 that the mission and calling of Elijah is to the seal the hearts of the fathers unto the children and the hearts of the children unto the Fathers even those who are in heaven. As already mentioned, this is might not be referring to just connecting us to our kindred dead, even though we think it is. Our kindred dead are in the world of spirits. Joseph is talking about a connection of our hearts to ―the hearts of the Fathers who are in heaven. Those who are in the spirit world, our dead, are in need of redemption. If all we do is connect ourselves to our dead, then neither they nor we are connected to the ―fathers in heaven. While we do temple work for and in behalf of our kindred dead.. They are awaiting salvation from our efforts on their behalf. They do not live ―in eternal glory.
DeleteIf I was in a sinking boat and in desperate need of rescue, I would not connect myself to another boat also sinking. Until we ourselves have connected to the Fathers and received our calling and election, the Second Comforter, and been washed clean from the blood and sins of this generation (not just symbolically) then we are no better off than our ancestors who have not received the temple ordinances.
"Fathers" with whom we need to become connected are NOT our geneological "fathers" who have passed on to the spirit world, or more correctly, to the spirit prison (they are not in "Heaven" where the Fathers dwell). As was mentioned, those "fathers" need our ministrations in the form of baptism for the dead, ordinance work and sealings, in order to become connected thru us to "The Fathers" who are in Heaven. Search the scriptures and forget what the church correlation committee has been peddling in our manuals. The scriptures are replete with references to "The Fathers" who dwell in Heaven.
ReplyDeleteOn another note, I was reading the Lectures on Faith (from the 1835 edition of the D&C) over the weekend. Amazing stuff! If you do not have a copy, I recommend you get one and read it carefully.
JR
In answer of the question on "connecting to our faithers"... Quotes taken from (lds.org website) http://josephsmith.net/article/quote-index?lang=eng
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This is the spirit of Elijah, that we redeem our dead, and connect ourselves with our fathers which are in heaven, and seal up our dead to come forth in the first resurrection; and here we want the power of Elijah to seal those who dwell on earth to those who dwell in heaven.
History of the Church, 6:252.
The doctrine or sealing power of Elijah is as follows: If you have power to seal on earth and in heaven, then we should be wise. The first thing you do, go and seal on earth your sons and daughters unto yourself, and yourself unto your fathers in eternal glory.
Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, sel. Joseph Fielding Smith (1976), 340.
The spirit, power, and calling of Elijah is, that ye have power to hold the key of the revelation, ordinances, oracles, powers and endowments of the fullness of the Melchizedek Priesthood and of the kingdom of God on the earth; and to receive, obtain, and perform all the ordinances belonging to the kingdom of God, even unto the turning of the hearts of the fathers unto the children, and the hearts of the children unto the fathers, even those who are in heaven.
History of the Church, 6:251; spelling modernized.
Why is this important? Lots of reasons but here is what Joseph said about David.
Although David was a king, he never did obtain the spirit and power of Elijah and the fullness of the Priesthood; and the Priesthood that he received, and the throne and kingdom of David is to be taken from him and given to another by the name of David in the last days, raised up out of his lineage. (Joseph Smith)
Also JST Genesis 9 talks about some of the covenants of the fathers, the new and everlasting covenant which is Jesus Christ.
Where can a person buy or acquire a copy of the 1835 D&C Lectures on Faith?
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JRSG
JRSG,
ReplyDeleteI bought mine on Amazon, cost aprx. $29, and I had it within 48 hrs.
This is the edition wh. was corrected and approved by Joseph Smith, and the church voted unanimously in 1835 to accept all of it as scripture, included the Lectures on Faith.
A committee of church leaders in 1921 decided to drop the Lectures on Faith from the D&C without a vote of the church ("Continuing Revelation"...When was the last time the church voted to accept something as scripture?)
Those who agree that the church is currently being led by "continuing revelation" might agree with a committee of church leaders overruling Joseph Smith as to what should be considered scripture. I do not.
The Lectures on Faith are amazing reading...even Bruce R. McConkie considered them scripture.
JR
JR, ISBN or link to the edition you purchased? Thanks!
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